| Allen Ginsberg: If LSD is a material attachment, which it is, I think, then is not the sound, śabda, also a material attachment?|
Prabhupāda: No, śabda is spiritual. Originally, just like in Bible there is 'Let there be creation', this sound, this spiritual sound. Creation. Creation was not there. The sound produced the creation. Therefore, sound is originally spiritual, and through the sound... Sound—from sound, sky develops; from sky, air develop; from air, fire develop; fire, water develop; from water, land develop.
Allen Ginsberg: Sound is the first element of creation?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes.
Allen Ginsberg: What was the first sound, traditionally?
Prabhupāda: Vedic states oṁ. Yes. So at least we can understand, from your Bible, that God said, 'Let there be creation'. So this is sound, and there is creation. God and His sound is nondifferent, absolute. I say 'Mr. Ginsberg'," this sound and I, a little difference. But God is nondifferent from His energy.