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Prabhupāda: Another thing is that how can you support that animal killing is not sin?

Yogeśvara: (comma justifie que tuer les animaux n'est pas péché)

Cardinal Danielou: (que tuer les animaux n'est pas péché?)

Bhagavān: How do you justify it?

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, because we, we thought that there is a difference of nature between life of man, life of spirit, and biological, biological life, and we think that all the creation of animal and of plant is given by God to the man to help the man in order to (indistinct). Who says, Your Grace, said that only the spirit is real beings and the remain is appearance and not really exist and we think so. We think that animals, plant are not real beings, are world of appearance and that you human person only is real being. And that in this sense, the material world is without importance.

Prabhupāda: Now..., I follow. Suppose you are living in this house. So you are not this house, that's a fact.

Cardinal Danielou: Yes. Yes.

Prabhupāda: But if I come and break your house, is it not inconvenience for you?

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, surely. Surely it is inconvenient.

Prabhupāda: So if I cause inconvenience unto you, is it not criminal?

Cardinal Danielou: It is inconvenient to me, but is...

Prabhupāda: No. If I cause some inconvenience to you, is it not criminal? Is it not sinful?

Cardinal Danielou: I think if there is a serious reason, it is not the destruction of the spiritual man himself. By example, it is perfectly possible to use of the reality of the material world, of the natural world to the valuable finality of human vocation. We think that the question is a question of motivation. It could exist bad reason to kill an animal. But if the killing of animal is to give food to children, men, women, we ont faim. Qui, ont faim? 

Devotee: Hungry.

Cardinal Danielou: Hungry, we are hungry, it is legitimate, legitimate... We have... It is difficult to admit that in India, comment dit-on les vaches? 

Yogeśvara: The cows.

Cardinal Danielou: Oui, cows.

Prabhupāda: One thing is...

Danielou: It is not permitted to kill a...?

Yogeśvara: Cow.

Cardinal Danielou: ...a cow to given to children who are hungry and the...

Prabhupāda: No, no, from any other consideration, cows' milk we drink. Therefore she's mother. Is it not?

Yogeśvara: (Il dit que,On boire le lait de vache, donc elle est notre mere n'est ce pas?)

Cardinal Danielou: Oui. 

Yogeśvara: N'est ce pas? 

Cardinal Danielou: Oui, yes, surely, surely, but the...

Prabhupāda: According to Vedic (indistinct), we have got seven mothers, ādau-mātā, the original mother, guroḥ patnī, wife of the master, spiritual master...

Cardinal Danielou: Yes.

Bhagavān: Can you understand?

Yogeśvara: (Il dit que selon la vision vedique il existe sept mères, donc la mère naturel)

Prabhupāda: Ādau-mātā guroḥ patnī brāhmaṇī, the wife of the priest.

Yogeśvara: (prochainment..)

Cardinal Danielou: (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: Rāja-patnikā, the wife of king, the queen.

Cardinal Danielou: Oui.

Prabhupāda: Four. Ādau-mātā guroḥ patnī brāhmaṇī rāja-patnikā, dhenur. Dhenu means cow. Dhenur dhātrī. Dhātrī means nurse. Tathā pṛthvī. Pṛthvī means earth. These are seven mothers. So cow is mother because we drink milk, cow's milk.

Cardinal Danielou: Yes.

Prabhupāda: How can I deny that she's not mother? So how we can support killing of mother?

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, yes, it is a motive. But we think that, the...

Prabhupāda: Therefore, in India, those who are meat-eaters, they are advised... That is also under restriction. Advised to kill some lower animals like goats, even up to buffalo. But cow killing is the greatest sin.

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oui, oui... I know this, I know this. And this is for us, a difficulty, a difficulty...

Prabhupāda: Yes, because the cow is mother.

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, yes, it is such.

Prabhupāda: You, you take the milk from the mother...

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, yes

Prabhupāda: And when she's old, she cannot give you milk, therefore she should be killed?

Cardinal Danielou: Yes.

Prabhupāda: Is that very good proposal?

Yogeśvara: (Est-ce que c'est une bonne proposition que quand la vache devien tros vieille, et elle ne peut pas donner du lait on la tue?)

Cardinal Danielou: Oui, oui, oui. 

Yogeśvara: He says yes, it is.

Prabhupāda: Eh?

Yogeśvara: He says: "Yes, it is a good proposition."

Cardinal Danielou: If, if the men are hungry, it is the life of men is more important than the life of cow.

Prabhupāda: Therefore, because we are propagating this Kṛṣṇa consciousness, we ask people to, not to eat meat, any kind.

Cardinal Danielou: Yes, yes.

Prabhupāda: But if, under certain circumstances, you are obliged to eat meat, eat the flesh of some lower animals. Don't kill cows. It is the greatest sin. And so long one will be sinful, he'll not be able to understand what is God. But human being, main business is to understand God and to love Him. But if he remains sinful, neither he can understand God, and what to, what is the question of loving Him. Therefore, at least from the human society, this cruel maintenance of slaughterhouses must be stopped.

Cardinal Danielou: (qu'est qu'il dit?)

Yogeśvara: (Il dit que lorsque, il est recommande dans les ecriture vedique,si l'on doit manger de la viande c'est mieux de tuer les animaux inférieur a la vache. Donc ces abattior qui existe actuelment, on doit les fermé si l'on doit avancer l'espèce humaine )

Cardinal Danielou: Oui, oui, oui. I think that, perhaps this is not an essential point. I think that in this realm the uses of various religions can be good. The importance is to love God.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Cardinal Danielou: But the commandment practical can be various.

Prabhupāda: No. Just like God, if God says that: "You can do this," that is not sin. But if God says that: "You cannot do it", that is sin.
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