Virabahu: This is one of the first darshans that Prabhupada gave in Caracas. Prabhupada took great pleasure in discussing with the lawyer…Bolivar Barrios, that’s his name…which is that man that you see there. He was a young man. Actually he already passed away, that lawyer. He would pose all these questions, challenges of our philosophy, and Prabhupada would be very keen in replying to him.
One interesting point I notice over and over is how Prabhupada has his own train of thought. It’s so unexpected. He doesn’t follow your train of thought. You are expecting something from him and… For example, I told him how even the scientists, they acknowledge that whatever is created from Krishna is even better, although they don’t say it’s created from Krishna, but everything that comes from nature is better. So I told him, “They say that this body is the most perfect machine.” But Prabhupada even didn’t accept that and said, “Where is perfection?” I said, “But it’s the most perfect machine. Not that it’s perfect, but it’s the most perfect machine.” But Prabhupada said, “Where is perfection? If it’s perfect, then why are we dying?” You see how Prabhupada took it from another angle.
